, those women, blue collar white women, 43-28 romney. let me try one other thing by you. >> it's about unemployment. chris: joe, and go around. anybody have any -- the term black swan, something that comes out of nowhere and like we had with henry kissinger back in vietnam saying peace is at hand or bin laden tape that came out at the last minute and really hurt john kerry. >> you know, 401-k's are such a huge part of the way people think about the economy now. something like 65% of the american people have them. the stock market has been drifting down. it's very close to the 13,000 mark. if it falls over the next nine or 10 days, that may not be very good for obama. if it comes back over the next nine or 10 days, it may be -- chris: it's been doing that back and forth. black swan ideas? >> you can always wonder if there's going to be some big catastrophic event overseas that creates a crisis that allows a president to look presidential. my sense is that romney and obama are now so close in foreign policy positions, you would have less o